tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post8834044419415540595..comments2024-03-15T11:42:21.265-04:00Comments on The Patry Copyright Blog: Educators Forced to Become MPAA's CopsWilliam Patryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12987498082479617363noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-77148356464997798862008-08-09T10:59:00.000-04:002008-08-09T10:59:00.000-04:00Doesn't every college student use Skype as a means...Doesn't <I>every</I> college student use Skype as a means of copying music by streaming the audio across VOIP and recording the "conversation"<BR/><BR/>=)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04913319955934222058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-54551444270955591762008-08-01T13:02:00.000-04:002008-08-01T13:02:00.000-04:00I love this line, especially: "This technology is ...I love this line, especially: <BR/><BR/>"<I>This technology is able to detect all P2P, OS file-sharing, FTP, IM, proxy use, Skype and application tunneling over HTTP, HTTPS, DNS and ICMP protocols.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Yeah, sure it is -- for now.<BR/><BR/>And problem do they have with Skype? Seems odd that Skype is even mentioned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-4982971986425783842008-08-01T12:56:00.000-04:002008-08-01T12:56:00.000-04:00There has never been an adequate debate over the r...There has never been an adequate debate over the responsibility of third parties, such as colleges and universities or businesses with big networks, to "do the work of the MPAA" in terms of identification, interdiction and suppression of copyright infringements. Clearly, large institutional copyright owners would prefer a system of laws imposing some responsibility on others for that work. But it is a bit like requiring the third parties to take apart every machine they use from steam boilers to high-end electronic switching devices looking for potential patent infringements. <BR/><BR/>The Internet is, after all, interconnected. This advantage already makes the work of identification and interdiction relatively easy when compared to finding an illegal manufacturer of DVD's in Saigon. So what the MPAA is really looking for is help in actually suppressing infringements.<BR/><BR/>Instead of geeking out over the granular small-step laws being proposed by the music and film industry, a big issue focus on third-party responsibility for the suppression of communications is politically more feasible and socially more critical in terms of debate and action. If that suppression is rightfully identified as a social "wrong" it can be used as a shield against the seductions and heavy handed arm twistings of the film and music industry.<BR/><BR/>Sorry this post must be anon. Written from inside the beast where the infection of liberation is spreading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-44103051212430448512008-08-01T12:00:00.000-04:002008-08-01T12:00:00.000-04:00considering that the supreme court has ruled p2p s...considering that the supreme court has ruled p2p software legal this can be easily overturnedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-6830667551895551142008-07-31T12:44:00.000-04:002008-07-31T12:44:00.000-04:00Steve, the antitrust cases go to things like ASCAP...Steve, the antitrust cases go to things like ASCAP and BMI being limited to offering non-exclusive licenses rather than exclusive licenses, as well as equal license terms to those similarly situated.William Patryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12987498082479617363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-62643793271250678742008-07-31T12:24:00.000-04:002008-07-31T12:24:00.000-04:00why haven't those private interests done what othe...<I>why haven't those private interests done what other businesses do: try to sell their goods to the consumers?</I><BR/><BR/>Heh- because the law hasn't yet forced them to do so. <BR/><BR/>I don't know much about the genesis or history of ASCAP. Their website makes it appear that the beginnings of the association were entirely voluntary. I do know that there were some antitrust cases about licensing music, in which the Chicago-school "economic efficiency" arguments supporting the ASCAP/BMI model largely won out. <BR/><BR/>If ASCAP has its roots in legislation, is there hope that a similar clearinghouse might be established to license unlimited personal use?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-79396495234346576242008-07-31T11:54:00.000-04:002008-07-31T11:54:00.000-04:00Steve, thanks for the link to Cory's piece on reco...Steve, thanks for the link to Cory's piece on record labels and ISPs in the UK, which I read. The mechanical compulsory license and ASCAP licenses arose only because there were statutory laws that backed them up. As Cory points out the label-ISP deal in the UK is voluntary in the sense of not being mandated by a statute.<BR/><BR/>There has been nothing stopping RIAA and MPAA from offering voluntary license deals; they could have done so over a decade ago. I think the question is not whether universities should be forced by the government to enforce private rights, but rather why haven't those private interests done what other businesses do: try to sell their goods to the consumers?William Patryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12987498082479617363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-25741570370192491772008-07-31T11:36:00.000-04:002008-07-31T11:36:00.000-04:00Thanks for another great commentary on the music i...Thanks for another great commentary on the music industry's campaign against its American customers. You might be interested in Cory Doctorow's latest post from across the pond: <BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jul/29/internet.digitalmusic<BR/><BR/>Seems that the mafIAA are having a run of legislative good luck, both here in the US and in the UK. However, Cory rightly points out that passing increasingly intrusive laws which can't be effectively enforced will just encourage copyfighters to continue circumvention. Remember, cops and legislators (and university Presidents) work 40-hour weeks. The guys writing encrypted bittorrent protocols will use them to share movies and music 24 hours a day, and they're already getting away with it. <BR/><BR/>This new legislative text pretends that the MPAA is effectively fighting infringers and holding back the tide of technological advancement. In reality, US college classes start in about three weeks, and a brand new crop of students is about to begin using their high-bandwidth dorm room net connection to download high-definition movies without fear or remorse.<BR/><BR/>Cory's proposed solution is intriguing- I'd be interested in Bill's thoughts. Would the average person be willing to pay for an ASCAP-style bulk download license? And could the MPAA/RIAA be persuaded to sell rights on that basis?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com