tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post4915169901249668102..comments2024-03-15T11:42:21.265-04:00Comments on The Patry Copyright Blog: Jermaine Dupri Does Talk StraightWilliam Patryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12987498082479617363noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-57440514615466395542007-11-26T12:03:00.000-05:002007-11-26T12:03:00.000-05:00Thats where I heard about it too dre. i have to d...Thats where I heard about it too dre. i have to disagree though, dupri makes a great point in saying that you can't break up art into separate pieces, its different buying a single that was released as a single, but buying songs that weren't released without listening to the other ones, breaks up the concept. Its not about money, obviously, Jermaine Dupri is one of the most successful producers in Hip-Hop, let alone the fact that he runs So So Def, its about the art, no one can see that.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898418662294486970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-36472639612778836932007-11-26T11:27:00.000-05:002007-11-26T11:27:00.000-05:00This is crazy talk. I read about this on WWW.GLOB...This is crazy talk. I read about this on WWW.GLOBALGRIND.COM and had to come check out more. Of course Jay-Z can sell a whole album, he's the man and got one sick song after the next. But a lot of these new artists have only one song that you really want to hear, so why buy the cd for that one song. Dupri says people like him made mtv and bet and itunes. Actually, the fans made all of this. Without the fans, artists wouldn't be selling anything. You're still making money, way more money than you even know what to do with, as a result of your fans, so why go against what your fans want? It makes no sense!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-67713487124415007162007-11-22T21:07:00.000-05:002007-11-22T21:07:00.000-05:00His analogies are a little weak. A chapter in a bo...His analogies are a little weak. A chapter in a book has significantly less meaning out of context. Buying the top corner of an original Warhol painting also doesn't make sense because it would physically ruin the painting. (Although buying a copy and cropping it might make sense.) On the other hand, music is always chopped up and mixed. You hear songs out of context all the time. If he wants consumers to buy albums as a whole, consumers need a good reason to. That can be a loyalty to the artist to experience the album as the artist intended, or it can be something else. I personally prefer listening to albums as a whole. But consumers should have the freedom to decide how they want to experience their music.Matt Agnellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05702569632571611883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-82248794205537454322007-11-21T21:07:00.000-05:002007-11-21T21:07:00.000-05:00I think reggae Gangsta Girl Tanya Stephens may hav...I think reggae Gangsta Girl Tanya Stephens may have had the best advance retort to Mr Dupri's comments in her hit from 2004 <A HREF="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=76048315&s=143441&i=76048217" REL="nofollow">Way Back </A><BR/><BR/>Click the link to buy it at the iTunes Music Store. ;-)<BR/><BR/>I think she gets it "right on" in viewing the rise of illegal distribution and copying of individual songs as partly resulting from a trend starting in the 90s of musicians and labels attempting to produce one good single and sell it with a bunch of junk for the price of an album. <BR/><BR/>Selected lyrics: <BR/><BR/>"And it came to pass, that in the glorious days of charts That the music ailed<BR/><BR/>and we danced to it and threw a party but in our hearts WE knew the musicans had failed<BR/><BR/>Then came along brothers Napster and Aimster and though they were definitely wrong<BR/><BR/>I think it's worse to be forced to buy a whole bull*#it album just to get that one good song.....Can I get a Amen?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-35899534471526370432007-11-21T17:10:00.000-05:002007-11-21T17:10:00.000-05:00But that doesn't mean the people who investing the...<I>But that doesn't mean the people who investing their time, money and sweat into a record shouldn't have the right to decide how it's gonna be sold, whether that's in single units or as a whole. </I><BR/><BR/>That's all well and good. But he should remember that there are other alternatives: if someone doesn't want to pay for an entire album, and can't reasonably purchase singles, piracy will be a more convenient and satisfying option. Exclusivity just isn't what it once was; it's probably better to try to adapt to the changing world than to fight against the tide.<BR/><BR/><I>My book, Young, Rich and Dangerous: The Making of a Music Mogul, came out in hardcover last month, but Simon & Schuster doesn't let the book stores tear it up and sell it chapter by chapter.</I><BR/><BR/>Someone should tell him about first sale. Bookstores could do that if they wanted to. They might not want to (it's kind of unprofessional, and could be bad for business relationships that go way beyond one mere author), but authors don't get that much control.<BR/><BR/>And while it's sad to see illuminated manuscripts broken apart, mass-produced books du jour don't elicit the same sympathies. It's got nothing to do with it being a book: it's just an antique object. We'd all feel the same way if it was a classic car or house, I'm sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12505562.post-61091063359081394512007-11-21T15:27:00.000-05:002007-11-21T15:27:00.000-05:00Straight talk, yep. A bit naive, a bit stuck in a ...Straight talk, yep. A bit naive, a bit stuck in a modernist aesthetic (the whole transcends the parts, the album as a body of work, the artist as the exclusive source of the work)...but then it's my contention that we will never escape it anyway, nor should we. Mash-ups hardly amount to its undoing. Modernism has always been about mash-ups <EM>and</EM> integration, fracture <EM>and</EM> wholism. Pound's <EM>Cantos</EM>, for instance?<BR/><BR/>A better example than the Warhol scenario, I think, of destructive dismemberment of a work is the ages old practice of separating illuminations from medieval manuscripts. Their piecemeal sale reaps a much higher profit than the integral work. See, e.g, Christopher de Hamel, <EM>Cutting Up Manuscripts for Pleasure and Profit</EM>.Dean C. Rowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846388304210211279noreply@blogger.com